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Post by brewta on May 31, 2007 15:53:14 GMT -5
I have the big dogs on order and would like to protect them from the power outages/blips we get. While there is no consistency to them, they do seem to come in waves especially the quick partial to several second ones. I seem to recall one of Emotiva's manuals either stating or eluding to plugging them in directly instead of a conditioner. I emailed Lonnie about using one of the Brick Wall non MOV types and he responded with:
"What you are looking at is a surge protector that uses a 1:1 transformer for isolation. This will work very well for the processor, but I am not sure how the amplifier will react. I guess the best thing to do is connect the amp to it and see if it limits or clips. If it doesn't, then it should be fine."
So the question is, what do you use, how do you like it, and what are your opinions on the MOV vs Non-MOV type conditioners? (OK a multi-part question) The description on Brick Wall's site make perfect sense to me but then again I don't have a degree, or any education for that matter, in electrical engineering.
Let the informative discussions begin!
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Post by The Administrator on Jun 18, 2007 9:59:55 GMT -5
I can't offer much advice, but I do have a power conditioner that I like. I picked up a Belkin PureAV PF-60 a couple months back from eCost. Like $150. It's great. While I can't say that it really did anything acoustically, it definitely made a difference in eliminating the little pops that I'd hear when another appliance (clothes dryer, wife's hair dryer, AC, etc) kicked in. It slightly affected the color levels on my TV. I've not had any problems with my LPA-1 clipping. I have the big dogs on order and would like to protect them from the power outages/blips we get. While there is no consistency to them, they do seem to come in waves especially the quick partial to several second ones. I seem to recall one of Emotiva's manuals either stating or eluding to plugging them in directly instead of a conditioner. I emailed Lonnie about using one of the Brick Wall non MOV types and he responded with: "What you are looking at is a surge protector that uses a 1:1 transformer for isolation. This will work very well for the processor, but I am not sure how the amplifier will react. I guess the best thing to do is connect the amp to it and see if it limits or clips. If it doesn't, then it should be fine." So the question is, what do you use, how do you like it, and what are your opinions on the MOV vs Non-MOV type conditioners? (OK a multi-part question) The description on Brick Wall's site make perfect sense to me but then again I don't have a degree, or any education for that matter, in electrical engineering. Let the informative discussions begin! |
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Post by theophile on Jun 18, 2007 15:53:43 GMT -5
Brewta, I used a Monster Power HTS1600 (CC & BB models) since 2005 on my HT setup. My 4-year old 61" rear projection HD-CRT set showed better contrast, colors and brightness (sorely needed) that was immediately apparent, even the wife wanted to know what adjustments I did to improve the video (she didn't notice the little 1600 conditioner for a whole week)! Audio improvements also appeared as better clarity, focus and extension on the cheap Bose SS system!! With that success, I bought another for our bedroom 32" HD-LCD but had a less notable video quality increase and no audio quality increase (using display's audio). Since, I've not tried my 42" or 61" DLP's w\o the MP 1600 line conditioner as I felt secured with the surge\lighting protection they offer and enjoy the "coolness" factor!! Once I ordered the Emo UT Series, I wanted a power line conditioner that would better serve my full HT setup power requirements! After getting some great recommendations towards both the Pure AV PF-60 and the MP HTS 3600 MKII, I decided to go with the Monster Power 3600 MKII (familiarity=confidence)! With everything on and running, my current RMS draw is 3.5 amps (2 amps to DLP alone). At peak, undistorted, full action, Loud DB Levels, I saw "Once" a peak hit 5.0 amps, then drop down in the low 4 amp ranges! NEVER has the Emo LPA-1 gotten hot, clipped, sounded strained, distorted or harsh (Sony receiver did it all the time) ...the LPA-1 amp seemed to be asking for more but my ears were hitting their comfort levels!!! Spoke with Lonnie (who had suggested to plug amp directly into dedicated A\C feed) and he said if I was having no trouble with the LPA-1 performance, then the conditioner unit was well designed and could be kept feeding the amp...not really needed, but why not do it!! Would there be a degradation in video and audio performance if I removed any of the "7" components being feed by the conditioner (amp-pre\pro-DLP display-HD DVD-DTV HD receiver-powered sub-acoustimas module)...don't know, it is staying setup as it is!!! I like the looks and secured feeling of the overall performance I've obtained with a conditioner in the A\C feed loop. So for me, the $300 investment is a small price for my "Peace of Mind"!!   ;D Hope this helps! Ted Emotiva LMC-1 & MP HTS 3600 MKII  |
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Post by lcseminole on Jun 18, 2007 16:50:17 GMT -5
I've been using a Monster HTS-5000 for 5 years now. I had hoped that it would make everything clearer, cleaner, etc., etc., etc., but to be perfectly honest I haven't noticed any difference with any of my components or plasma. It has come in handy for power surges, living on the Gulf Coast of Florida surge protection is a must, and for my Carver power amp, which doesn't have a remote trigger, so this does that feature, along with the switchable & unswitchable outlets option.
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Post by brewta on Jun 19, 2007 14:36:33 GMT -5
Finally getting some response on this thread, thanks guys! I've been debating between the Brick Wall, Monster, and APC (the model with battery backup) but now need to consider the Belkin it appears. Currently have an old Monster 1000 hooked up but my Denon receiver but it still turns on whenever there's a brown/blackout. My problem with the APC is I'm still trying to figure out if my wattage exceeds what is available on the model. More research/debating to do  . I appreciate the feedback, please keep it coming. |
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Post by lcseminole on Jun 19, 2007 20:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by brewta on Jun 20, 2007 17:06:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the links! Furman looks very interesting, if I can afford it  . Looks like more research to do! |
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. I appreciate the feedback, please keep it coming.
. Looks like more research to do!